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President trump's legal team is working hard to spin the 2016 trump tower meeting between russians and key members of the trump campaign, including but not limited to, his son. on sunday, among other things, rudolph giuliani said that trump's team did not know that natalia veselnitskaya was russian before the meeting took place, nor that she was connected to the russian government. >> any meeting with regard to getting information on your point is something any candidate staff would take. if someone said, i have information about your point, you would take that meeting. >> from the russian gov...

Natalia veselnitskaya was russian before the meeting took place, nor that she was connected to the russian government. >> any meeting with regard to getting information on your point is something any candidate staff would take. if someone said, i have information about your point, you would take that meeting. >> from the russian government? >> she didn't represent the russian government. she's a private citizen. i don't even know if they knew she was russian at the time. all they had was her name. >> i think they knew she was russian. >> well, they knew when it they met with her. not when they...

Not limited to, his son. on sunday, among other things, rudolph giuliani said that trump's team did not know that natalia veselnitskaya was russian before the meeting took place, nor that she was connected to the russian government. >> any meeting with regard to getting information on your point is something any candidate staff would take. if someone said, i have information about your point, you would take that meeting. >> from the russian government? >> she didn't represent the russian government. she's a private citizen. i don't even know if they knew she was russian at the time. all they h...

Good morning. it is monday, august 20. i'm ayman mohyeldin alongside louis bergdorf. on "meet the press" rudy guilliani pushed false hoods in the new position of the trump legal team about the aides meeting with russians in 2016. >> the meeting was for the purpose of getting information about clinton. the meeting turned into a meeting -- >> which in itself is attempted collusion. >> no, it is not. >> you said it, the meeting was intended to get dirt on hillary clinton from a criminal lawyer. >> no, it wasn't. >> that was the intention of the meeting. you said it. >> that was the original inten...

Julian, start with you. did you get your etch-a-sketch yet? >> this is funny. you remember after the florida primary when mitt romney said he didn't care about the poor. this is the silver foot in the mouth syndrome. similarly after a big win in illinois the candidate staff comes out and says the positions can be like an etch-a-sketch, he can just erase them for the general election. you ask anybody that's been involved in presidential politics and they will tell you it takes two wings to fly. you have to motive at it independents on the one hand and the liberal base on the other. what he has ...