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It's these -- these are the guys who don't like the middle class. these are the guys that are causing the shutdown. and you know what, if we default, you know who is going to hurt the most? the very people that mike roe is talking about. the middle class is going to get hurt. the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker, the welder, the electrician. all of those middle class guys. where do you think this economy is going to go if we don't pay our bills? i'm going to ask him in a moment. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. does the republican party have...

Candlestick maker, plumbers, electricians, construction workers. they've been depressed. depressed wages by corporate policies for the last 40 years. there's been an attack on laborer, there's been an attack on unions. even trying to take away people's voices in the workplace, when someone can go and fight for a good wage. i think if wages weren't depressed, i think we would be filling the void that you're talking about, about those jobs that are very necessary for us this country and our economy to move forward. >> look, it's a fundamental philosophy, it's a way of thinking. kevin costner sai...

Want to individual candidates. so you're looking at a situation where the political process like every other commodity in america will be controlled by the wealthiest people in this country, that to a significant degree is a loss of american democracy as many of us understand that to be. >> how do the american people combat this in the election season? you can social network, you can boots on the ground, you can get the butcher the baker and candlestick maker to give $10, $5, but this really opens the floodgates for corporations to own the white house and the government. or is that an overstat...

Coming from. they are counting on the lower end donors, the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker to pull them through this thing. >> well, that's what they're counting on. eliot is absolutely right, that continuing this discussion does seem to me to be pretty good politically for the democrats. it is not inconceivable that republicans will get enough heat as we roll into the election year and as they hear from their constituents, if they'll start getting enough heat that maybe they're willing to move a bit. now, i'm not guaranteeing that. they've been so steadfast in drawing their line an...

breaking point. where are we weak incentive that's what the author of "money ball" and "the blind side, "michael lewis, will give his insights on. finally, solutions, what will fix the problems that ail us? i'll talk to tom freedman of "the new york times" about his book. also, want to see the hottest new thing on the globe? take a trip to mumbai or shanghai. i'll explain. and of course a few thought on steve jobs. first, here's my take. barack obama busy apparently committed blasphemy. in an interview in florida last week, he dared to say that america had gotten soft. the denu...