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Scope. >> the big indictment. under georgia state law, the special grand jury cannot indict. they cannot return an indictment, state of georgia versus donald trump or any other person. what they can do and the da says this is issue a recommendation for prosecution. if they do that or even if not, the district attorney can decide whether to take the evidence and present it to a normal grand jury that may have the option to indict. >> what's happening here is that the da was feeling as though there were witnesses that she wanted to talk to who were not complying.

Last month before the grand jury was quested on the raffensperger call, you said just the words themselves i find it hard to believe that someone can indict or ever get a conviction that was supporting either obstruction or perjury or election fraud. what do you make of the now that the grand jury is moving forward? . it's going to depend who is on the grand jury. this grand jury can't indict. this is a special purpose grand jury which just does the investigation and as jfry said, it subpoenas records, subpoenas documents and can take sworn testimony. but it cannot indict. it just does a repor...

See where it goes. >> walker through that step, there's many ways to interpret this. what is your interpretation of this request? for a grand jury and what that means? >> so, grandeur's are different in every state. which makes it complicated. and in georgia the special grand jury serves a different purpose than the special grand jury does in new york. in georgia, a special grand jury cannot indict. it can call witnesses, can subpoena witnesses, can look at evidence. and then issues a report and recommendation. so that is likely different from in manhattan, where could issue an indictment itse...

Forward? >> it's going to depend on who is on the grand jury. this grand jury can't indict. this is a special purpose grand jury which just does the investigation and as jeffrey said, it subpoenas records, subpoenas documents and can take sworn testimony. but it cannot indict. it just does a report at the end, a maximum of a year, which would be may of 2023. so it won't indict. you know, whether the phone call to mr. raffensperger ultimately would lead a criminal grand jury to indict is questionable. and i find it even more questionable that ultimately a trial jury in fulton county would convi...

The white house keeps complaining about congress overreaching. presidential harassment or whatever. he said this mueller thing. it never stops. wasn't the mueller report a road map to congress to start investigation? you touched on it a bit before. >> it had to be. according to the department of justice policy not a law, cannot indict a president. if a president commits murder, or federal treasury and puts in a bank account. presumably there has to be accountability. if it can't happen through the judicial process. it has to be through congress. that's the only option. or we're creating a pres...