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>> what were you saying if it comes out and they have a vote before july 4th, which is the goal. >> that would be a huge mistake. i don't think it's going to happen. look, you can't have ted cruz and mike lee on one side and a few others in that group that are going to allow this process to be rammed down their throat. this is going to be more deliberate that what is portrayed, it has to be. there has to be more discussion. the american public is going to know what they are voting on before they vote on it. >> tbd. stand by for that. senators, stand by. you can join me in that conversation. ba...

I don't want to try to be a newt translator here. it might have been he was talking about criminal obstruction of justice versus impeachment which is a political process and it's very hard to charge the president with a crime. if muler were to find anything troubling about the president himself, it might be he takes that to the houpgs, to tse of representatives, to the senate, and do with this as you want. >> that's way too fair to newt. >> is newt gingrich right when he says the president of the united states cannot obstruct justice, that the president of the united states is the chief execut...

He pardoned weinberger when weinberger could have easily pointed the finger back at bush. >> okay. i want to get jeffrey's take on your argument. >> respectfully i could not think alan is more wrong, and the simple response is watergate. i mean, under alan's theory -- let me finish, alan. let me finish. under your theory the president, since the fbi works for the president, he can tell them to do anything they want. well, in watergate, the president nixon and his -- they conspired, they made an agreement to stop the fbi investigation of watergate. was that a constitutional authority? no, it wa...

Long way to go. >> why is it devastating? >> it's devastating because it shows the pattern leading to him firing comey because comey is pursuing this investigation and the president is saying don't pursue this investigation. don't pursue the flynn case. but, more importantly, the facts in this investigation is closing in on the president of the united states and at the same time we need more information. we have a sprawling investigation being conducted by a special counsel. we need more facts. we need -- i keep referring to the best obtainable version of the truth. there's gray area in here. ...

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