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Do so, according to secretary gates, by the end of the year. we believe it s working, but right now, all we can point to is anecdotal evidence of that. we are confident by year s end, once the surge forces are all on the ground, we will be able to show convincing proof that this strategy is going to lead to an afghanistan that cannot reconstitute itself as a safe haven for terror. jenna: what does that concrete proof look like, what would define success for you? what we have said all along, it s a two-pronged strategy, first and foremost, we are trying to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-qaeda in afghanistan, we are going after the taliban in afghanistan, we are trying to degrade them while simultaneously we are beefing up the afghan national security forces to the point that we can ultimately hand over security responsibility to them, so they can deal with a degraded threat within their territory, basically by themselves. simultaneously, though, we ve got to obviously get the afghan ....

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