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Healthcare and most folks looking at the financial bill don't think our credit system will operate. we're doing a lot here in washington to make it hard for americans to have confidence in our financial system. >> i talked to a prominent investment bank c.e.o. today, and one of the things he told me, part -- i talked to him before everything hit the fan. one of the things that's contributing to the volatility and sinking feeling, particularly in financial stocks, is you guys are like the keystone cops and wall street doesn't want you being the cops. what do you make of that? >> it's true. no o...

>> neil: unless the secretary is earning billions. i'm kidding. while i have you, you stepped down at head of house ways and means while they sort through your financial deals and some argue you get sweetheart deals. why did you step down? >> when the republicans stopped talking about healthcare, climate control and started talking about me, weather wheree leadership went they asked about what about charlie wrangle. i said let me step town so we can get healthcare. >> neil: when due step back to the post? >> as soon as the ethics committee completes its work i'll be back. >> neil: ny any indic...

Money to help people along that be to be able to say that they feel secure. take medicare, another program that we will be remedying with a insurance bill and bring it into solvency but the fact is people who can't get healthcare, which is true from greece, cannot work and ultimately cost more to the society, not just in lack of productivity but the cost of being involved in serious conditions and complicated surgery. so what i'm saying is -- >> neil: all good ideas but how do we pay for it? everyone things the elderly should be protected. it's good to provide healthcare to everybody. but what...

You are missing the part. he can't afford health insurance. is he working? no he is just eating doritos all day long. >> here is the prescription. sucks to be him. >> bill: but we suffer because of his irresponsibility. >> no, it sucks to be him. no, you have to do something in society. you have to. you have to try. >> bill: your solution is to die in the street or you and i will have to pay his bill. that's it. there is no in the middle. >> we are already paying. that's the problem. >> bill: you already are. >> that's the problem. there are some people who cannot work. >> bill: you would say ...

He can't afford health insurance. is he working? no he is just eating doritos all day long. >> here is the prescription. sucks to be him. >> bill: but we suffer because of his irresponsibility. >> no, it sucks to be him. no, you have to do something in society. you have to. you have to try. >> bill: your solution is to die in the street or you and i will have to pay his bill. that's it. there is no in the middle. >> we are already paying. that's the problem. >> bill: you already are. >> that's the problem. there are some people who cannot work. >> bill: you would say no free care in er. >> no....