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Decide whether a judge subpoena. want to get mike pompeo and mic mulvaney work your way through the courts and with an election coming up. you saw everyone ignore the democrats on wednesday and thursday whenever that debate was. how could they get anything done, let alone how could democrats get their voice out. senator john kennedy, he was senator kennedy was on also over the weekend said this about the impeachment process. he sees and smells politics. i think speaker pelosi is acting in a manner that is insincere even by the standards of congress. she is turning impeachment into a routine po...

>> i find it unconscionable that they have not allowed the president to defend themselves on the house side, can't call witnesses, can't offer rebuttal evidence, in terms of the substance, i think the quid pro quo is a red herring. >> in terms of timing for the next steps the house intelligence committee is expected to submit a report of its findings to the judiciary committee after the thanksgiving holiday, from there we could have additional hearings, right around christmas, so it is going to be a busy holiday season up on capitol hill, rob and jillian. jillian: yes, it is, garrett tenny, th...

Lawyer. even in the clinton impeachment hearing, the president's lawyer, president clinton's lawyer got to question ken starr, are you really saying that you may shut down the white house lawyer? >> well, the amount of obstruction here is unprecedented and it was frustrating to the american people to watch the last 2 weeks of hearing and hear the president and defenders say we don't have direct evidence, all you have is hearsay evidence, you need to hear from x, y, z person when the president is telling mick mulvaney, john bolton, secretary pompeo and perry not to come in. that goes to conscio...

Lawyer. even in the clinton impeachment hearing, the president's lawyer, president clinton's lawyer got to question ken starr, are you really saying that you may shut down the white house lawyer? >> well, the amount of obstruction here is unprecedented and it was frustrating to the american people to watch the last 2 weeks of hearing and hear the president and defenders say we don't have direct evidence, all you have is hearsay evidence, you need to hear from x, y, z person when the president is telling mick mulvaney, john bolton, secretary pompeo and perry not to come in. that goes to conscio...

Yet. we learned that there was a condition, that to get the call the investigations had to happen, ambassador sondland said that and to get the white house meeting investigations had to have evidence. we can prove the fact that the aid was withdrawn after the department of defense certified it on may 23rd, the aid was withdrawn for the ukrainians and everything we knew about the president when it related to ukraine was condition, so july july 25 call, white house meeting, the fact that aid was withdrawn, circumstance. chris: does that rise to the level? >> if proven, we are getting