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Dr. marazzo, it's an honor to have you with us tonight. thank you so much for taking the time. >> my pleasure, rachel. good to see you. >> so you were warning a month ago that alabama was out of icu beds. you warned publicly that if things continued the way they were going you said that this month could be apocalyptic. how are things in alabama right now? it feels like that icu capacity number has been negative for a while. >> right. exactly. and when i used that term, you know, some people took it in the literal biblical sense. but what i was really referring to was a breakdown of a social or...

In neighboring washington state. as of today, the state of alabama does not just have zero icu beds available. the state's icu bed availability is in negative territory. they have 0.7% negative icu bed capacity. ray demonia's daughter telling the "washington post," quote, dad would just want things to get back to normal. if people would realize the strain on hospital resources that's happening right now then that would really be amazing." but they don't flow if that will ever happen. joining us now is dr. jeanne marrazzo, director of the division of infectious diseases at the university of ala...