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Patrick is also hitting on the point about how do we define self-defense? i think we have to go beyond civility and look to the larger questions, not relitigating something where we should respect the jury's decision. that's important. i think we've seen a lot of people talk about that. that's not just a cliche. that's not just rhetoric. we have to respect that in the rule of law. but if there are things in the law that seem unfair, that shock our conscious or in the case of, i think, for many people, the stand your ground laws, which change the underlying rules of self-defense. if you look at...

Chris and he made this point and it's a poignant point and worth restating. we see black people killed who are innocent all the time. i mean, so the idea there's something -- unfortunately and wrongly, that there's something new here and, therefore, there's going to be eruption by virtue of the fact of the acquittal alone, ignores that this is a norm for our community. this is why i say, do we live in one america? because i think the answer is no. we live in two different americas. because the reality for people who are black in this country, and this is why the jury pool mattered, is very dif...

Capital punishment. if he is acquitted how can he potentially be found in a capital case? >> that's a superb question. there is the capacity under our constitution and under our law for federal charge, a separate federal charge for civil rights violations to be brought even if a person has been acquitted in a state court. very often when there are issues that are very often politically charged, the federal government will look at a case and bring federal civil rights violation cases and they have done so across the united states. >> the prosecution said he did profile trayvon. the defense said...

In most states we all know we get 12-person juries. when daryl parks was on he said to us, if it's a capital case, it's 12-jury panel. >> i want to thank marc morial, and charniel harris. shoot! this is bad. no! we're good! this is your first time missing a payment. and you've got the it card, so we won't hike up your apr for paying late. that's great! it is great! thank you. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness. resoft would be great, but we really just need "kid-proof." softsprings got both, let me show you. right over here. here, feel...

If you're the prosecution and coming into this, you just had this ruling. this is your big day. you've had a chance to set the tone. what do they say? >> something very interesting, what we were just talking about, the twins, my children. you've got a jury of six women. it's got to be a capital case for 12 people. they've only got six jurors in this case. they're all women. i don't care what color they are or how much money they make or their education. this is what it's all about. some of them are mommies. some of them are wives. so both sides are going to be capitalizing on that, focusing on...