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Did, they would have the weapons taken away, the presidents response wasn't good, we don't want them to have weapons, the president's response was, take the magnetometer's down. he wanted them to be able to march with him to the capitol armed. and so his knowledge, his intent, i think, we got the most direct view of that in the testimony is today. the fact that when that attack was going on, having been frustrated in his efforts to accompany this armed mob, he is sitting in the safety of the white house, he is asked over and over to do something about it. but he won't do anything about it beca...

From these events. up until yesterday, the public wasn't aware that the president knew, the crowd, the mob, was armed. and he wanted them to be able to march on the capitol armed. imagine how the capitol police, who were injured over 140 of, them during that attack, knowing that the commander in chief -- who is supposed to be protecting them and our institutions -- was one of that mob, to be able to go to the capitol. armed. it really is astounding. >> i mention former white house counsel pat cipollone. the committee has made direct appeals to him, on screen, before the mix, to come talk to hi...

>> and everyone ultimately was going to wind up at the capitol. what he says is let everybody in or -- i'm sorry. he says let everybody in. >> he says get rid of the magnetometers. >> and instead he knows and wants all these people to go to the capitol armed. and i think the fact that he is encouraging armed people to go to the capitol raises his level of culpability a great deal. >> and all he -- one of the things he cared about was he didn't think the picture was going to look really good. that there were bald spots in the picture and he wanted that filled with people. he didn't care about t...

Monetary sustenance. and now they want to say, we're back. but it takes time. and now, looking back at the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol, and looking at a fbi document, leading up to the day users in multiple platforms they discussed traveling to the capitol armed or looking at plans to start a revolution on that day. joining us now is nbc news national security and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, and help us to understand why this is significant, because you and others have said that there were explicit threats to the capitol leading up to the january 6th attack. >> yes. a...