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Recovery of the black box. so we can find out all the circumstances surrounding this downing. >> have the ukrainians asked for lethal assistance, weapons, ammunition, things between the nan lethal articles you mentioned? >> they've requested a lot of material. some of it lethal in nature. but the focus has been and remains an the nonlethal side of assistance. >> they have asked for weapons -- >> i'm not going to detail everything on the -- >> all right. that was the pentagon press secretary john kirby answering questions about the downing of mh-17. joining us, a few guests to help us make sens...

The cockpit voice recorder only records 30 minutes back. you're never going to hear what happened seven hours, three hours, five hours. and the flight data recorder records two hours back. you may get information about what systems were working and not, but i don't think you're ever going to get hard evidence of a deliberate act, and i think the indication is going to be that it was some type of a mechanical failure. >> the question i have goes back to this, how everything. we're talking with captain cox and bob hager how everything seemed to be switched off. all of the sudden at one something...

Of a electronic machine? >> i doubt it. the cockpit voice recorder only records 30 minutes back. you're never going to hear what happened seven hours, three hours, five hours. and the flight data recorder records two hours back. you may get information about what systems were working and not, but i don't think you're ever going to get hard evidence of a deliberate act, and i think the indication is going to be that it was some type of a mechanical failure. >> the question i have goes back to this, how everything. we're talking with captain cox and bob hager how everything seemed to be switched...

That at that point the cockpit crew, whoever is left of the cockpit crew would be incapacitated or dead more likely if it was a decompression or heavy smoke or something like that, which also suggests that mercifully the passengers might have been dead for that whole stretch out over the indian ocean as well. the final end there, you were asking about that, and we don't know this, but the way a plane typically comes down when it runs out of fuel, and that must be what happened here is eventually it ran out of fuel. if one engine goes first and then the other one, it's apt to spiral down there....

All we know now is how it began with the last words from the first officer a little after one income the morning march 8th and how it ended according to today's fateful verdict slipping into the south indian ocean a little after 8:00 a.m. that same morning. what did happen on that plane? what is there for relatives and the beloved to contemplate for the rest of their lives and for us who travel by air to imagine, to consider each time we head skyward? yes, kuala lumpur, we have a problem there is just so much we don't know about malaysia airlines flight 370. can a 777 just disappear? can we be...