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So we're on both sides of the teter totter, it's a balancing act. >> and it is the putin factor, putin wants assad to be part of the transition in fact, right? >> absolutely. putin has never given up his support of the assad government and he sees anything short of assad remaining in power to manage that transition as a potential for syria to fall into another libya, which is total anarchy. >> from a military perspective, captain nash, why is it important for the u.s. to maintain a strong and powerful position in this equation? >> because in the end, this is about stability in the region. and ...

Joins me. hi, captain nash. >> hey, arthel. >> before we get to the putin factor, you say the u.s. and saudi arabia, along with turkey are at odds dispute secretary kerry's visit. why? >> because at the same time secretary kerry is down talking to the saudis about supporting groups that are fighting isis, one of the red lines that the president drew was that assad must go. that's why the saudis, qatar and other gulf arabs all signed onto the coalition because they are primarily anti- assassad. at the same time secretary kerry is talking to the russian foreign minister about assad being part of...

All about not losing what we paid so dearly for in blood and treasure and not just walking away from all of that. it isn't lost yet. we're holding onto it. and if we allow the russians to move in and become that dominant power, it's only going to come to ill because you've got the iranians who the russians are backing and the saudis who we are backing and that's not good. >> okay. i have to go. captain nash, always good to talk to you. >> nice to be with you, arthel. >> wild story, a juror goes an extra mile thinking she's helping in the case but went from the jury box to the jail cell. how he...

And military fire was exchanged. captain nash, it always catches our attention when something happens on the border of north and south korea because of the dmz. we have tens of thousands of troops on the border. what's next, do you think? >> i don't think this will break into general war. but any time you take military forces in the highest levels of alert that we have seen in a very long time and put them up against each other. any kinds of neglect or overexuberance or just dumb thing can happen, then that can mushroom very quickly. that's what the talks are about. they are trying to deescala...

Europe is made up of a bunch of of countries totally different from each other and they have separate laws and different intelligence agencies. they will look for soft targets. al qaeda used to plan complex things where you could monitor their communications and if you miss it it winds at 9/11. these guys are coming back, and they are self-motivated, and they are just getting a gun and walk into soft target because it doesn't take a lot of training or planning. you just go kill people. jenna: captain nash, great to have you. >> reporter: a fighter jet crashes on a busy highway.