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Bags with him. one has clothing in it. >> the passenger was somewhat hesitant to show him the second duffel bag, but trooper henry was able to see an assault rifle amongst the clothing there. >> the passenger grabs the rifle before henry can get at it. the trooper quickly backs off, leaving the taxi driver in the car. >> the trooper made that choice to retreat because really that was all he could do at that time to save his life in case the passenger started immediately firing. better to have one person than two people die. you know, you just can't stay there and spend a minute trying to get s...

Questioning. >> what kind of things you do as a gangster in your daily job? >> oh, no comment on that one. >> i mean, just like, i'm sure you've got an everyday thing. you guys organize, don't you? >> just kick it, get drunk and party. >> yeah. make sure ain't nobody tripping around you. >> and then he stared me down and kind of gave me that junk yard dog look, like, you know, i think we're done here. >> these kids don't know how to act like proper gangsters anymore. >> when we met this man, the 44-year-old inmate had spent almost 25 years in either jail or prison. back at l.a. county on an at...

Motivates him to do that. his gear shifted from being like a goof ball to, you know, you're crossing the line here with your questioning. >> what kind of things you do as a gangster in your daily job? >> no comment on that one. >> just like -- i'm sure you have an everyday thing. you guys organize, don't you. >> kick it, get drunk and party. >> yeah. make sure ain't nobody tripping around you. >> he stared me down and kind of gave me that junkyard dog look, like i think we're done here. >> these kids don't know how to act like proper gangsters anymore. >> the 44-year-old inmate spent almost 25...

Increase in the loss of innocent lives. that's the choice. which one would you make? and in america legally owned guns are used millions of times a year to save innocent lives. you certainly don't believe in calling 911 to stop evil in your home, do you? you don't believe that being unarmed and helpless is a desirable condition? you think unarmed and helpless is something you can control over me? that's weird. >> well you're putting a lot of words into my mouth. what i do believe is where you dramatically increase the prevalence of guns, more people will die from guns, and you don't believe th...

Jurisdictions where more people have concealed weapons permits. means a gun in their belt. in those jurisdictions, you have not only a dramatic decrease in violent crime but a personal assault-type crimes, car jacking, rape, home invasions. they don't just go down, piers, they go away. noum that you know that, why won't you help me create more safe areas? >> when we come back, we'll talk about what we're supposed to be talking about, which is president obama. >> i'm with you.