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Sent out. let's listen to how he handled it and then you jump in here. >> that by itself doesn't tell you the whole story. if she were texting me at 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning, wanting to know if i can help her with her rent or help her with her car note, that doesn't mean that i was calling her. the other thing about those phone calls, which we have requested, that we be given access to them, my attorney and i, is what really was the pattern of those? all it says was 61 calls. i talk to a lot of people 61 times. we don't even know over what period of time. >> right. >> well, apparently, jona...

Troubles. and it was over an extended, it was over 2 1/2 years i was, i was doing this because of the job market. so, this, she is not the only person i have helped. i have helped a lot of people. the only thing about this particular one is, yes, she happens to be female but i have helped a lot of people. >>neil: but i guess what god the story going, herman, is the fact she had the 61 text or calls some of them at 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning and that led some to believe, well this had to be more than just helping out a friend in need. what do you say to that? >>guest: well, what i say to that ...

On our first date he had just paid off his car note and he was talking about his next car already. that brother didn't get another date. >> if you are not strong look you, okay, you know how to say, guess what, brother, you are not getting another date. you do say you need to get some counseling, some professional help. is it your typical marriage counselor or other types of referr referrals? >> definitely marriage therapy. many therapists know about the financial part. they can talk to you about the issues behind the money. couples think it is about the money. it is not about the money. it is...

Everest college. undercover investigators from the government accountability office visited each of them and brought hidden cameras. >> a lot of people have student loans. >> but the best thing about it, it's not like a car note where if you don't pay, they're not going to come after you. >> i owe 85,000 to the university of florida. will i pay it back? probably not. i look at life a little differently than most people. i look at life as tomorrow's never promised. >> i'm not signing up for the school right now. >> yeah, you are actually reserving your seat. >> oh, you know, i really need to se...

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