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Just continue on the same path. you need somebody new like carl bruning to kind of clean things up and get things back on track. so -- >> all right, well -- go ahead, sir. >> well, both, yes, both candidates are republican, but there's an awful lot of differences. >> all right. well, john weins and mel hilgenberg, between you, sort of acting out the compromise is okay versus compromise is not okay fights happening within the conservative movement right now, they happen on the left as well. we don't get to see a lot of each other across the partisan divide, but it's been a real pleasure for me ...

Smith, and i'm also pushing for clear the bench, sweep the boards, dump the dams, political renaissance and tea for 2010. >> mr. wiens, you're supporting the candidate whose name is there on your shirt. why did that become an important issue between you two? >> well, carl bruning is a constitutional candidate for sheriff. of course, the constitution is his main platform. liberty, standing up for citizens' rights. and the other candidate is -- >> i'm sorry, go ahead. i didn't mean to interrupt. i was going to say -- this is the way it goes with a satellite delay. i'll just bully you and get in ...

Representing the current regime, sheriff's regime, and there are certain things that need to be looked at and probably cleaned up. and that can't happen if you just continue on the same path. you need somebody new like carl bruning to kind of clean things up and get things back on track. so -- >> all right, well -- >> go ahead, sir. >> well, both, yes, both candidates are republican, but there's an awful lot of differences. >> all right. well, john weins and mel hilgenberg, between you, sort of acting out the compromise is okay versus compromise is not okay fights happening within the conserva...

I think it has something to do with the shirt that john is working there, the carl bruning, your constitutional candidate shirt there. is that behind why you guys decided to break up? >> yeah, that was the major thing. i'm backing a guy named justin smith, and i'm also pushing for clear the bench, sweep the boards, dump the dams, political renaissance in 2010. >> mr. wiens, you're supporting the candidate whose name is there on your shirt. why did that become an important issue between you two? >> well, carl bruning is a constitutional candidate for sheriff. of course, the constitution is his ...

When you showed up at political events and rallies and you started playing a fife and drum, what sort of effect would it have on people there? >> well, it really had a good effect. we've had an excellent tea party and 9/12 group here in northern colorado, and it was really very motivational, going both ways. because people got pretty pumped up and i speak for myself and i think john would agree that it's a reciprocal kind of motivation. >> let me, mr. hilgenberg, let me stick with you for a moment. i know a little bit about the story about why you decided to break up as a duo. i think it has s...