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And frankly, if rick santorum smoked or drank he might also not get checked for his i.d. at his age if he goes to a liquor store. so it's not realistic. but you've got to understand where it's coming from. and it came from a situation, especially in these deep red states, where they just cannot understand why anyone would have voted for obamaç in the first place. so it must be fraud, right? >> r.t. rybak, richard, and also caroline, professor, stay with us. panel, stay with us. we've got more coming up. coming up, more with rick santorum. why did the republican candidate spend time with the ...

-- how can you survive in america without it? >> so you don't view that as restrictive at all?ç >> well, if it was a unique qualifier and if it wasn't such a pervasive requirement now in our society, to be able to show an i.d. that says who you are, it's hard for me to believe that there is that type of, you know, number of folks in america that don't have it. i'm not that familiar with state laws, but i suspect that if you are a resident you could probably go in and get some sort of photo i.d. from the state in order to qualify to vote if you don't have one already. and in fact, i would say...

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There are so many things in america today that you have to have a photo i.d. i don't know how you can almost -- how can you survive in america without it? >> so you don't view that as restrictive at all?ç >> well, if it was a unique qualifier and if it wasn't such a pervasive requirement now in our society, to be able to show an i.d. that says who you are, it's hard for me to believe that there is that type of, you know, number of folks in america that don't have it. i'm not that familiar with state laws, but i suspect that if you are a resident you could probably go in and get some sort of ...

R.t. rybak, msnbc analyst richard wolff, and professor caroline hellman will all join me. don't forget to tweet us your thoughts during the show using the hashtag "edshow." stay tuned.