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But everyone has their thing that helps them get through. i would ask you why but -- >> it's obvious. and tim is one of my new favorite humans on the planet. what he's done. former hell's angel, loved riding his harley. had this horrible accident and had this ah-ha moment where he realized, in terms of my own recovery and climbing mountains, i really want to do it for veterans. he's met all these amazing different people. he's summited everest twice. carson's. are you going to come climb with me? >> no. i would jump out of a plane before i did that. seriously. you've got the thing on. once you...

Previous offer from the president-elect, william said "he's a neophite and that is not his strength. "what do you think changed? >> that's a good question. i don't think very much. let's remember dr. carson didn't feel he was capable of running health and human services department but it was then okay to be president. but not run hhs. now he can run hud. look, i think this is a loyalty play on the part of donald trump. this is the fact that he has a business manager who says something about his strength and potency, dr. carson's, among the conservative grassroots, gives a lot of speeches, wrot...

Dealing with this large field of republican primary, it makes sense that you go look for some talented people that have sought this job before. >> also people who are very well liked. dr. carson amongst conservative republicans extremely well liked. >> without a doubt. >> it's interesting, david gregory, armstrong williams who is technically his business manager, which i think is the only politician i know who actually has a business manager who speaks for him, but said a couple weeks ago when cnn had said that carson had rejected a previous offer from the president-elect, william said "he's a...

Has not met with trump. patraeus felt good about that meeting. he was out on a sunday circuit doing a tough run and answering tough questions that the fact that he pled guilty. and bob corkel, that's where things stand but the over arching theme here. the bottom line, top officials say the president-elect trump is not in a rush to make a decision. he's going to take his time because this is such a critical choice for him, chris. >> kristen welker, thank you and don't back out even a foot. the dimension looks like those buses are about an inch from you. thank you very much for reporting from it...

Radically when we get to a general election. i often cited december, 1979 poll from dallas that was touted by the carter white house in the day that had jimmy carter beating ronald reagan 36%. of course a year later, the results were quite a bit different. >> let me come to you. let's stay away from the general election poll. let's look at what we're seeing if this narrows down to a four-man race. general expectations that it could go down to a three man race. let put those numbers up, guys. trump then would be at 41%, if you take all of carson's support. a lot has gone to ted cruz. trump stil...