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Money to help people along that be to be able to say that they feel secure. take medicare, another program that we will be remedying with a insurance bill and bring it into solvency but the fact is people who can't get healthcare, which is true from greece, cannot work and ultimately cost more to the society, not just in lack of productivity but the cost of being involved in serious conditions and complicated surgery. so what i'm saying is -- >> neil: all good ideas but how do we pay for it? everyone things the elderly should be protected. it's good to provide healthcare to everybody. but what...

Decided to the out of the dodge. the environment of greece and the concern of washington going too far. put the it in the pot and that was t i don't know, folks, i think the technical part there all valid, good, very real and on "fox business" we've been all over this and that was the case early on, but then to come by and say all is right with the world, even don marin, a man who used to head pain weber, he too is scratching his head and inside that head are much shrewder brains than my own. so it doesn't feel right, don. >> no, it doesn't and you're not wearing an old raincoat. >> neil: you ...

Programs across the board, but without money in the bank -- they're running huge deficits, as are we, and we're right with them. >> the point you make, yes, if we passed this and it went into law and didn't pay for it, then your concern and criticism is valid. we have authorized it and indicated broad support. we have another hurdle, to meet the cavuto test, to find a way to pay for t i'm going to come back and tell you how -- >> neil: why not pay before you give itty. >> you can do it either way. >> neil: i think it's better to pay before it give you it. >> this program is not into law. it wo...