That. >> this off topic, i forget when this happened during the course of the ins kargsration, there were comments that he got in a fight. can you address that whether he had any -- was there any conflict that he did have, maybe not -- that were not his fault but that he was involved in nerls? >> during the hearing i noted, i didn't hear of any disciplinary infractions. he was disciplinardisciplinary- would say no. >> can you, again, reiterate why we were able to get a de six today instead of waiting 10 days, three weeks for joe blow? >> as you recall, in the 2013 hearing it was a panel of one...