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Thanks to msnbc conspiracy is here to re, msdnc, and by the way, sidney, i don't blame you. i wouldn't seek to withdraw the plea. i would move for dismissal of all the charges. fake news cnn, telling a fake it is a totality of circumstances. story. when do they ever get held the fact that you've got the biggest liars and leakers in the fbi. accountable, if ever? i write about this in my book. >> joe: as you said, sean, the biggest liars and leakers. violating protocol, violating there are possible deadly ramifications that could be at white house rules. stake here. as catherine mentioned and y...

[ inaudible question ] >> the time on the -- >> when he exits ned pepper's. yes. the police vehicle and likely police officers at the same time. >> do you think he was going in ned pepper's? >> that's a great question. i think there is a good -- whether he had gone into ned pepper's to case it, i -- i think that is a strong probability but let me also say that he was very familiar with the oregon district. this was not a place he did not know. >> any chance inside ned pepper's he had some encounter or interaction with someone that could have --? >> no. there is no indication that he had -- i m...

The time on the -- i got the time right here. >> when he exits ned peppers, yes. the police vehicle and likely police officers at the same time. >> yep. >> do you think he was going into ned peppers? that's a great question. i think there's a good -- whether he had gone into ned peppers to case it, i think that's a strong probability, but let me also say that he was very familiar with the oregon district. so this is not a place that he did not know. >> any chance that he had any interactions? >> there's no indication that he had contact with individuals, but there's no indication that there's ...

>> the police vehicle and likely police officers at the same time. >> you think he was going into ned peppers? >> that's a great question. whether he had gone in to ned peppers to case it, it's a strong probability. let me say that he was very familiar with the oregon district. this is not a place that he did not know. >> any chance while in ned peppers he had an encounter or -- >> no. there's no indication that he had -- he had contact with individual there's, but no indication that any of those were of significance that would generate a response like this. this was a plan before he got to th...

What they believe the suspect, 21-year-old patrick crusius did, before this moment, before he entered the walmart with his weapon. this surveillance obtained by ktsm. tonight, law enforcement officials telling abc news that before the chaos broke out, that they believe the suspect had been looking for a good place to target and shoot mexicans. law enforcement officials telling us, crusius entered the walmart on saturday morning, first, with no weapon, apparently to case it. then, they say, satisfied with what he saw, up to 3,000 shoppers inside, he left the store, armed himself and then return...