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Rising at a much slower rate. i guess that's some good news here, right? >> that's right and yes, we are at record high new cases throughout the pandemic. new case levels have exceeded that as we saw last winter but similar to what south africa continues to report, we are seeing reduction in clinical -- in the -- the number dropped to 14% during the delta wave and less than 5% with omicron with a population that has a less than 40% vaccination rate. in the united states we're seeing the same thing. we have a drastic rise in cases and while there is a slight rise in hospitalizations, that is be...

Think about relying on those policies around masking, testing, increasing vaccinations, to get those case levels under control right now. >> you're talking about two to three weeks as a lagging indicator for the number of hospitalizations, dr. blackstock. have we gotten to two to three weeks? it feels like we've been dealing with this for some time. we announced it or learned of it back on thanksgiving, announced the first few cases here in the united states, just a few days later. >> right, so those are the first few cases. but now we're hitting case numbers of hundreds of thousands a day. no...

That, are you giving guidance to people about those settings? we will still be recommending _ people about those settings? we will still be recommending that _ people about those settings? we will still be recommending that people i still be recommending that people wear face covering if they can. the law will not require them to that any more. it's still about people moving from a place where the law requires people to do things to moving to guidance and asking people to exercisejudgment. in moving to guidance and asking people to exercise judgment. in all of these things there is, of course,...

A small fall in covid—19 cases again in wales, we think we can safely do this and the choices that the government is making here in wales are supported by the public health guidelines we have received from our chief medical officer as well. so it is it managed, it's a gradual and it's a careful move to get us out of the public protection measures and to make sure we do not see a return to covid—19 and the harm that it has caused and the stratospheric case levels we saw at the turn of the year. that is. vaughan gethin. this weekend marks 25 years since a cargo ship accidentally spilled five...

At our next review, whether the remaining protections can safely be removed from the end of march. so we have got a pathway, so, hopefully, seeing the end of covid—i9, seeing it properly in the rear—view mirror. and it is still about people moving from a place where the law requires people to do things to move into guidance and asking people to exercisejudgment. now, with all of these things, there is, of course, a balance. but because of a relatively stable public health position, because we have seen a small fall in covid—i9 cases again in wales, we think we can safely do this and the ...