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Investigation. >> the game is to disdread mueller investigation before it kom comes out with anything. to discredit the fbi, the people who are trying to get to the bottom of all of this. and i think that you muddy the waters before mueller does anything. and therefore, you're prepared in case mueller says, in fact, that the president did something wrong. or that the people this his campaign did something wrong. or that there was obstruction. so you know, it is like a pre but theal in politics. you get out there and you say, no matter what happens, you just can't trust him. >> which is odd. if...

>> natasha, explain how you see what kind of a case mueller is going to make here with these hot witnesses now. >> it seems like ken said he's moving more quickly along the obstruction path. that doesn't necessarily say to me or others talking to people in these circles that this indicates that the investigation as a whole is wrapping up. it just means perhaps one of phase of the investigation is closer to completion than another. one of the things that struck me about the "washington post" reporting in terms of what mueller wants to ask trump is he really wants to hone in with trump was so an...

Read the fine print. that stuff you shouldn't have had expectation of privacy. it a strange bout of lawyering here. the ad mission they were blind sided and taken this case mueller acted illegally not to a judge but sent to a letter to two congressional committees. it feels to me as an observer there is lawyering happening here. >> there are loath ts of questi about the ability of trump's legal team. you're right about the e-mails. the thousands of e-mails the trump transition lawyer come plined about and the special counsel said hey, we got those legally. they say dot gov and this is part of ...

Shave about 15 minutes off of the run from seattle to portland and there were many people whofr were upset about this and they warned about something like this happening. that will all be part of the investigation as we look forward. back to you. >> jeanine: thanks so much. and this weekend, special counsel robert mueller's team came under fire over how they obtained emails from the trump transition team. joining us now live from the white house is ed henry. >> good to see you. democrats are trying to pour gasoline on this fire by spreading rumors that the president may try to fire robert muel...

Democrats trying hard to pour gasoline on this fire by spreading rumors, and that's all it is right now suggesting that president trump will try to fire robert mueller. the president flatly denying that but in fact there are some democrats suggesting maybe the special counsel's credibility is being undermined and in fact allies with the president trying to directly undermine the credibility. a lawyer for the president's transition team trying to make the case mueller himself came to the probe by obtaining tens of thousands of emails from the time period between the election and the inaugural. ...