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Everybody who's looked at this seriously, including the u.n. rapport ter and u.s. intelligence agencies have concluded that a crime of this magnitude committed by people so close to the crown prince could not have taken place without the knowledge and support of the very top of the government, and if he were really taking responsibility, he would be allowing these investigations to take place with transparency. he would be telling us among other things where jamal's body is, which we've never learned, and so he's really doing the opposite. the cover-up has continued. >> david, of course the ci...

Evelyn farkas she's currently a senior fellow at the german marshall fund. tremendous panel here. let me begin with you, nbc news had a chance to speak to two former cia officers who cast doubt that wheelen was spying for the united states, because they said spying in russia is a risky thing to do. what does russia get out of these allegations. what is it russia wants from the u.s.? >> well, coming back to the chart that you showed a couple seconds ago. maria butina is about to start cooperating with robert mueller. it's going to show that vladimir putin, through a person who worked for him ga...

Election day neared saying that the system was rigged when he seemingly believed he was going to lose the election, already putting in place a message to take away the legitimacy, sorry, craig, i need more coffee, of that election, before it was even done, so in this case, i think he was doing the same thing. as these elections, as these counts go close in the bigger counties come in that tend to be more democratic, the vote count gets closer and if he was nervous about it, or just wanted to ensure that he was casting doubt in the places where the democrats are, he wants to cast doubt. he's al...

Record and everything that has happened to him during his confirmation process is despicable and it's all falling apart and it's always another reason. if you don't believe he's a gang rapist, if you don't believe is a stumbling, bubbling drunk, how about this, he just doesn't have the temperament to be a judge. this is the one that offends me the most. how would you react if somebody destroyed your life and you found yourself in front of the entire nation being humiliated, what would you do? >> shannon: the top democrat on the committee, senator dianne feinstein says this about him not being ...

The room and saying, why did you allow yourself to be used anonymously to cast doubt, to refute debbie ramirez. the lady admits she wasn't doing that, even though her words were being used in that way. secondly, she calls her out for the fact that at her own wedding, she saw that debbie ramirez, who was supposedly one of the friends with brett kavanaugh, was avoiding him like the plague. he said it was very odd and that there was something wrong, but that it, quote, now all makes sense to her, given the allegations. >> again, the question remains, what's going to matter more for those three go...