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Actually about 50% now that we are debating. >> they wanted to go away and it's important to know why. they want to go away because prices are up, choices are down, folks don't have the kind of coverage they want. they may have a card but they don't have care because they can afford the deductible. there are all sorts of an array of things that are wrong with obamacare, with the aca and that's what we're trying to fix. it's not just through this bill, that's what's important for people to appreciate as well. if it's an isolated activity, it's an important one. it's vital to have it but it's on...

Over the period of seven or eight years, that drops down to just cpi. consumer pricece index. over that period of time, the individuals that would transition from medicaid to theh private market would then be able to have the coverage that they want. and if they needed it because of their low income would be subsidized by what's called a stability fund. more choices, lower costs, strengthening medicare. making it so we can have patient-centered health care in the system. >> tucker: not fewer people covered by health insurance. >> i believe, there's no way to predict it, cba has a terrible reco...

Actually above 50% now that we are debating. >> they wanted to go away and it's important to know why. they want it to go away because prices are up, choices are down, folks don't have the kind of coverage they want. they may have a card but theyt. don't have care because they can -- can't afford the deductible. there are all sorts of an array of things that are wrong withe, obamacare, with the aca and t that's what we're trying to fix. it's not just through this bill, that's what's important for people to appreciate as well. if it's an isolated activity, it's an important one. it's vital to h...

By and large, the individuals -- >> tucker: who loses money on this? >> the money gets spread differently and the amount of money is actually more because as i said the increase in medicaid is upping consumer price index in individuals are able to select the kind of coverage they want. choices make it so that the market of health coverage, if you will, response to patients, not to insurance companies and not to government. that's the key. >> tucker: how far are we for single payer nationally from catastrophic coverage. honestly. i'm hearing conservatives who have always been against -- single-...

This bill is. is it to improve health outcomes, to control prices, or to expand coverage? >> sticking to the principles of health care, making it affordable and accessible of the highest quality and providing choices for patients. protects patients, provides more choices, lowers costs and it strengthens medicaid. that's it in a nutshell. >> tucker: but you didn't add to that expanded coverage? >> coverage comes when people have something that they want to purchase. coverage doesn't come when washington tells you what to buy. the way that you get people to get health coverage and that you provi...