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Well, i think one of the important things, this is -- iowa is a state where religious liberty is a very important thing and senator cruz has a record on that. there's just no question about it. the thing i'm interested in is donald trump is bringing in a lot of people to the process that were never involved before. i'm not sure fight how you measure that. i mean, after all, polls or no polls, at the end of the day you have to show up on a cold winter night in iowa in february and stay there for several hours while you go about this caucus process. so the question is going to be in some sense, ...

Of maine where the u.s. navy's biggest and most extensive destroyer set sail for the first time. the ship's captain is james kirk, but the boat's name is the uss zumwalt, not enterprise. to the when. february 1st, iowa caucus day, but some folks won't have to be there in person. that's right. for the first time ever, iowa plans to have a telecaucus, over the phone, open to military members out of state. there's been a lot of complaints about the caucus process, that it keeps people out. now the why. millenials have taken over everything. bloomberg says baby boomers have taken over as the large...

Step with the country on this, they've been able to be out of step before. in the battle for the white house, the oldest latino civil rights organization in the country is putting people on the ground in iowa for the first time. the latinos only make up 5% of the population in iowa. the legal of united latin american citizens is investing up to $300,000 and going door-to-door to try to ensure latinos are involved in the caucus process. joining me from johnson, iowa, the political director, christian ukles. thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me on. thank you for letting us t...

The gop is 21% of the populous, and i've never good at math, it >> it's hard for saturday morning. >> it tells me that one-third of republicans translates to 7% to 9% of americans. that's it. maybe it's enough to do well in a primary process or a caucus process, but you're not getting elected president with this sort of thing. >> of course not. he's so bad for the republican party. you have to be -- in order to be elected, present yourself as a leader, you have to say unpopular things even if it does cause some members of your base, again, we are talking about the sliver or slice of a little t...

Politics. but i've been in iowa six different times. there's a sliver of iowa that believes this, and you're never going to convince him that he's a muslim. those are people that are going to go to caucuses and vote for donald trump. i think what trump is saying, it may be in the longer scheme to broaden his base. i don't think he can broaden his base much. i think he's got only 30% of republicans. >> kathleen, my point is 32% or thereabouts of the gop, and if the gop is 21% of the populous, and i've never good at math, it tells me one-third of republicans translates to 7% to 9% of americans. ...