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Because this is a florida candidate with some base of support. some popularity, and he's going to split up whatever vote that ron desantis has, but one thing i will counsel everybody on is, you know, we had 17 candidates in 2015, 2016, we're not there yet, but we're getting closer. we're now at 10 if he gets in the race. by the time, before the first caucus vote was cast, half the field had dropped out, and so i think a lot of these folks are getting in, see if they're getting reaction, they'll probably do a debate or two, if they qualify in this, and then i think many of them are going to rea...

One other big split among of democrats and that is whether or not to allow medicare to negotiate lower prices so you can expand medicare benefits. you had a number of the more moderate members of your caucus vote against that. how are you going to resolve that? >> well, i know that at least two of them have said they actually want negotiation with medicare to take place. they just didn't like the mechanism that was in the energy and commerce legislation. so there are ideas coming out of the senate on this. i'm not sure there are very many in the democratic caucus on either side of the building...

One other big split among of democrats and that is whether or not to allow medicare to negotiate lower prices so you can expand medicare benefits. you had a number of the more moderate members of your caucus vote against that. how are you going to resolve that? >> well, i know that at least two of them have said they actually want negotiation with medicare to take place. they just didn't like the mechanism that was in the energy and commerce legislation. so there are ideas coming out of the senate on this. i'm not sure there are very many in the democratic caucus on either side of the building...

On to the numbers. >> he's not getting any attacks for real. elizabeth warren is getting it from the left, right and center. she's -- everyone is hitting here, buttigieg and not bernie himself but the online supporters and the biden camp. so she's taking incoming and he is not. and i'll say that he seems lighter on the campaign trail after his heart attack. i don't know what he's doing for -- to keep himself healthy but he seems like a happier person. and i think that is working. but i will say about iowa, he got 49 point something percentage of the caucus vote in 2016. you could say he's unde...

We're not hearing people talk about it in my circle. at all. i think everyone pretty much knows where everyone else stands. and you know, they're just not interested. they don't have the time to try to follow it. >> it is a complicated story. do you think that it's too complicated for people to follow? there's a lot of ins and outs. no? >> i think it's fairly straightforward. i think a lot of people see it more as an infomercial politically. and it's very different than like looking back on the nixon impeachment, which was really, really grave at the time. and was by the vote, very bipartisan....