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Special forces soldier. it's an effective weapon.. it's used in canyons and cave complexes, it's a massive weapon and really hard to go on precision strikes when you have so many --ucker: give us a sensf the scale of the cave complex you are talking about. >> it goes from bora bora to the was dropped in, a series of caves that have not been destroyed. in 2001 and 2002, we basically were using explosions that would kill anybody in sight. this is used as an area denial weapon. what's important about this is isis was recently -- >> tucker: you keep the enemy from using the complex because it dest...

Americans in the past, this is on the heels of the recent death of a special forces soldier. it's an effective weapon. it's used in canyons and cave complexes, it's a massive weapon and really hard to go on precision strikes when you have so many -- >> tucker: give us a sense of the scale of the cave complex you are talking about. >> it goes from bora bora to the was dropped in, a series of caves that have not been destroyed. in 2001 and 2002, we basically were using explosions that would kill anybody in sight. this is used as an area denial weapon. what's important about this is isis was rece...