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Will the president's cave on? democrats have said, this is a sward that they are willing to fall down on because they feel like it's important to the voters. >> marie: it is a good sign though. we didn't know about this meeting until a few minutes ago. think about if the president hadn't invited chuck schumer. we were all just going to stay in our corners and what the shutdown happened at midnight tonight. >> harris: are you giving the president credit for something marie harf? >> marie: i might not admit that, but i am. i think it was smart of president trump, who has canceled his trip to mar...

Talk about it. but, there is no source from the outside of information other than the investigations. here you get every night a relative of somebody who died, who is on the list. who is suffering, giving testimony as to what actually happened. so, to say we can't know what happened unless there is investigation or until it comes in is simply untenable. i don't think they understand that. it's rather simple and in the end it's going to be absolutely a position they have to cave on and shinseki is going to have to go. >> i can't imagine shinseki lasts another week. mounting pressure politically...