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"i've got a lot of faith," he tells me. ultimately, he hopes to get money to send back to his two kids in venezuela. as we pull into ciudad juarez, about 25 miles still from the border wall with el paso, we and the others climb out. and that's it. you can see most everyone now getting off. it's basically the last stop. omar among the last off, carrying his only belongings and somehow a smile. planning to cross immediately. >> and david, do you know where the migrants you traveled with are now? >> some of them went to the city center to wait it out a few day, anderson, to bathe themselves and t...

Through that cbp 1 app. they said at first they couldn't even figure it out, that other migrants started crying because it was so complicated. they actually had to take a class at the shelter to learn how to use the app to make that appointment. it's one of the new methods, the new steps the biden administration is imposing to sort of slow the surge at the border here under this historic record number of migrants coming into the u.s. >> tom llamas, wow, thank you for that powerful report. it is such a desperate situation for so many of these migrants who are trying to get to a better life. joi...

Concerned about. neil? >> neil: we're so focused what's going on in texas and arizona, we lose sight of the fact that there the numbers could dwarf just on the mexican side those waiting to get in or feeling that a green light is on to get in. >> right. there's about 30,000 immigrants here in tijuana. many we spoke to are waiting for the expiration of 42. that group that you saw on the tape, that's what they're waiting for. the question really is will people use that cbp 1. there's not enough -- they're not going to do it fast enough. 2 to 300 people a day to make people happy. that's if frust...

We promulgate a law to achieve a policy and operational outcome. and the outcome we seek to achieve through this regulation is to incentivize people to take the lawful pathways and disincentivize them to place their lives in the hands of ruthless smugglers. >> it's on the screens behind you as determinates, redirecting migrants. >> that's not a message. that's an impact on human behavior. >> i'll go to the back. >> thank you. thank you, secretary. first, have you ruled out family detention as an option? and then two, you said that you have many more migrants than you have appointments for. so ...

Decision to go over to that side, which by the way is already crossing illegally even though they haven't gone through the border wall and been processed, they're not basing it on when title 42 is going to end. in november and december we saw this when they thought it was going to end, the deadline was extended both times here we are in may and these folks have been planning their trekds now for weeks and months and they say it's on their own schedule, it's very individualized and to that point i want to show you some of the images we gathered good nearer to the city center and that's where hu...