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had to face what does it mean to take away the right of people to make decisions about their pregnancy. it's no longer a hypothetical. and that actually changes peoples feelings, and as we know more people are talking about abortion. many people know someone who's had an abortion, and i think it's come out in the open. and the last thing interesting to me about this is as more and more people have realized the rest of the country is pro-choice as we saw in kansas and have continued to see more and more people feel confident saying i am, too, and that includes republicans and independents. >> cecile, the banner under which a majority of americans reside is pro-choice america, which always meant the choice, you know, more options in front of you. i wonder how impactful you think the stories are we've always focused with you on the real

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abortions in states that you show as blue where abortion remained legal. to get to the stories a woman in the south the new travel time for her to be able to access i'll just call it basic health care. this isn't abortion care. people don't come into our offices with signs that say my last menstrual period was such, and i'm at exactly 5 weeks and 6 days. we take care of the person in front of us, but when they need to travel someplace, that time for a black woman in texas can be one to two full workdays. when you think about texas being one of the states that failed to expand medicaid, nicolle, that just compounds the barriers in access to care and makes their lives even shorter. and to the point that cecile raised about doctors, it is widespread. this graduating class of medical students for the first time has said they're cynical about entering careers and not just obstetrics and gynecology but

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their 10-year-old daughters wondering if they're raped by someone up the block or in their family, should their 10-year-old daughters become mothers at 11. and there are republican women saying no, and that's a reality. this is not just democratic women saying no, these are republican women saying no. but it is also something important to think about back to that map, and cecile, thank you for pointing out what else is going on in that map because it's a ven diagram to the american south. it is a ven diagram to the confederacy. that is really important for us to note. it hasn't been why those states in their own efforts to say now we embrace the rights of women, now we embrace the rights of people of color, of black women, mississippi didn't ratify the 13th amendment until 2013. that's the amendment that banned slavery. in 1865 mississippi didn't get around to it until 2013. and mississippi is the state that petitioned the court to

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to get an abortion. well, very soon that's not going to be possible. and so it's -- as bad as it is now, it's going to be total chaos not too long from now. and again, as we've talked about this story isn't going to get better. one of the things i didn't mention in this ob/gyn survey that's amazing to me and so horrifying, more and more women are calling about sterilization. they're calling to get sterilized because they cannot face another unintended pregnancy, and that is wrong. >> dr. patel, i had heard that from a gynecologist that i know in new york city who said she had been asked to or she performed more sterilization surgeries in new york city that at any point in her career for the reason that cecile is articulating, that women don't trust the policies and the

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right after dobbs we saw the story of a 10-year-old girl having to flee one state in order to get to another in order to have that pregnancy terminate. she was fleeing ohio to get to indiana. there were lawmakers after that who said it was a hoax, it couldn't be, showing a grave naivety and ignorance, showing their own lack of concern because of course the story was real. but she wasn't alone. we've also seen judges participate in this with denying teenagers the ability to be able to get a judicial bypass. in one case in florida with a judge saying that the young woman was too immature to have an abortion, but that leaves us with a question, mature enough to be a parent? and this is the landscape in the united states. and it's far filled from any other peer country at all. >> you know, cecile, people say that politics and running for office is an x-ray some people say about television as well, you're revealed. this issue is an x-ray.

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they're trying to prevent us from passing ballot initiatives in states like ohio because they've seen voters don't like these aborz bans and that's why i think they're trying to now push for a federal ban. that's their goal is to eliminate access for safe and legal abortion for every person in this country. >> to be accurate, there wouldn't be anymore blue on the map if that were to happen, right, cecile? >> right. and honestly i think your map is very optimistic here. if you really look what's happening, look at florida, georgia, south carolina, north carolina, there's a pretty -- we're pretty close to the entire southern united states being a complete desert for abortion care. i was just talking to one of the clinicians in north carolina she covered a clinic and found a woman who had been sleeping overnight in her car, driven from florida, women from austin driving to asheville overnight

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health of a mother and that is an absurd proposition. if i said to you i would only treat depression if a person is suicidal you would tell me i'm criminal and committing malpractice, which i would be. and that's what we're asking clinicians to do. it's no surprise the public doesn't even have trust in health care professionals because of this. that was another part of that recent survey that cecile is mentioning from kaiser family foundation that we've also m.d. mined trust in people such as myself because if you talk to me and i have to disclose something in these states, you could be arrested, i could be arrested. that's crazy. >> that's so crazy. i want to bring into the conversation what this president and vice president and administration are trying to do. let me read righter's reporting on the executive order he's expected to sign while we're on the air. u.s. president joe biden on friday will sign an executive order designed to protect and expand access to contraception after a supreme court ruling last year overturning the

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The 2010s

it's just indicative of what kind of world we're living in. [crowd] the people united-- [woman] we are going to be a force to be reckoned with. and i'm here to protest it. [cecile] one of us can be dismissed, two of us can be ignored. but together, we are a movement, and we are unstoppable. welcome to the revolution. [music]

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The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

decisions in june that could plummet this support even lower. so, look, reproductive freedom voters are disgusted, they're angry. they think this court betrayed them, and it did, and i think we're going to see a lot worse coming soon. >> cecile, john roberts clearly has no idea of what he was saying, it was a written speech. you know, if this was a kind of a give and take, sometimes they submit to questions and answers at law schools, if he had said this in response to a question, it would be one thing. but he sat down and premeditated and contemplated and wrote what is the hardest decision i've ever had to make, he was reading that. he had days, maybe weeks, to write that. this is what he came up with, as the hardest decision he ever made. >> i mean, you're completely right, lawrence. he's totally shielded from what's happening in america. i think this story of what's happening, as a result of the overturning of roe v. wade,

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The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

co-chair of american bridge 24 century, and former presidential of planned parenthood, also -- many tomorrow due, president of narrow pro-choice america. and cecile, when i heard john roberts say that the hardest thing he ever had to do, ever had to decide, was put up that fence, i just thought of how better could he prove to us what he does not feel. when he reaches in to his bag of decisions and provokes constitutional rights. >> absolutely. lawrence, it's disgusting. i think of, think about hard decisions. think about kyrsten hogan, a woman in texas whose water broke during her pregnancy at 19 weeks, so she had to go to the emergency room, but she couldn't get care.

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