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So he kind of spoke in metaphorical responses. often quoting well known philosophers, great literary authors, which for me was a little unusual in dealing with an inmate. >> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and he would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half an hour, 45 minutes later. and they op...

Their personal, interpersonal communications skills aren't that great. jacek's were amazing. but he didn't want to get too detailed about his crime or his background in organized crime. so he kind of spoke in metaphorical responses. often quoting well known philosophers, great literary authors, which for me was a little unusual in dealing with an inmate. >> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have t...

Often quoting well known philosophers, great literary authors, which for me was a little unusual in dealing with an inmate. >> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and he would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half an hour, 45 minutes later. and they opened up the security door and he is in there in...

So he kind of spoke in metaphorical responses. often quoting well known philosophers, great literary authors, which for me was a little unusual in dealing with an inmate. >> maybe i will say this. one time in the 16th century there was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and he would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half-hour, 45 minutes later. and they opene...

There was a polish philosopher and he said this. the law in poland is like a spider's web. a big fly will get through but a small one will get stuck. i came to a conclusion that you have to find strength within yourself. >> and he would soon show us that strength was one thing he didn't lack. >> we were able to come back about a half-hour, 45 minutes later. and they opened up the security door and he is in there in sunglasses, a full like workout suit. he has his water bottles all together. the guy is ripped. i mean, he is big. a big guy. and he makes it out, well, this is just a cell workout....