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Every time he has come out there and try to take a more center position, the republicans have kicked him in the teeth. he can't negotiate from that position. it was bill clinton, back in 1992 who you know, who raised taxes. >> you are saying, don't be a lefty, doesn't he have to start on the left to get to the center, with debt reduction. >> no, he has to take a strong position, rejecting the extreme republican ideology. they want to eliminate medicare and social security. me, president obama, i am going to protect them. have a smaller, activist government f we have to raise taxes, i will hold...

Which is every time you come out there and try to -- to take a more center position, the republicans this year have kicked him in the teeth. he can't -- >> going hard right. >> he can't negotiate from that position. it was bill clinton back in 1992. >> that's a good question. >> who raised taxes. >> you're saying don't be a lefty, but doesn't he have to start on the left to get to the center in any final deal or anything to do with debt reduction? >> no. he has to take a strong position, rejecting the extreme republican ideology. say, look, the republicans don't want a smaller government. they...

Want strong environmental laws. you go down the whole list of things, that's the center position. what you're calling the left position is actually the center middle position, the majority of americans want this and they don't want social security or medicare touched. not one single dime of it touched. the more that he talks about creating some grand bargain with the republicans or trying to appease them in some way, that's why he, i think, has suffered in recent times, because he's left where the center of real, where the real political majority is in this country right now and he's gone over...