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But, with regard to what he is doing going forward, and when you look at the numbers and the polls, overall again agree with ben somewhat here. these polling numbers are not something that's gonna get a guy re-elected. these polling numbers, by the way, i'm not surprised mitch mcconnell polled lower. it was below double digits a couple years ago. congress i think both house and senate and that these both of those chambers are not looked on as favorable as the president. i'm not surprised by this. >> sandra: it's interesting. ben, when you go back to the second response post charlottesville fro...

People, to get the whole country, really, in insurance, including healthy people as well as sick people. >> you said -- i know you don't want to see obamacare repealed, but we've got a republican house, republican senate and a republican president-elect, and you said on cnn, "i worry the simple solutions are going to replace it without the details, and they're going to disappoint a lot of americans." >> yes. >> you also said to megyn kelly that you did wish that there had been a ceo-type person in charge of really getting this through and overseeing it all. so, if there is a redo, who should r...

Who come to rome with a specific purpose to elect a pope. but in a sense, through the cardinals that are here, the entire church is gathered with them. >> we don't think that siren has anything to do with the conclave coming up. it's just in rome, this is what happens. but the vatican also released more details about how the conclave will actually proceed when it begins on tuesday. the cardinal electors will begin the day at 7:00 a.m. moving into the santa marta, their sequestered quarters on vatican grounds. then at 10:00 a.m. they will celebrate the votive mass, a mass for the election of a ...

And takes action, a ceo type. >> and also needs a very holy man who can empathize with poor people. >> reporter: now there still appears to be no frontrunners, and one of the cardinals gets required two-thirds vote. the possibility of it being an american is still no longer considered a long shot. the names around are archbishop-- or cardinal timothy dolan, archbishop of new york and shaun o'mally of boston. >> jamie: i'm sure you remember last time i was covering it it, the gray smoke which was so confusing. >> reporter: the confusing gray smoke. >> jamie: remember? all right, it's going to b...

A very important role and i think the challenge is a little bit greater for mrs. romney. and that is her role is really to humanize and show the softer side of someone that does come across like a c.e.o. which by the way i think the country needs desperately is the c.e.o. type. >> geraldo: i newt you wer thoe going to say a stiff. >> he is a good father and charitable and both of these women were able to show the human side to their husbands and how caring and compassionate they are. >> geraldo: do you think michelle plays the role, not the mainstream republicans but there is this whole fringe...