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Times, not 42%, natural gas in ohio as they thought they did a year ago. i mean, just the drive of the energy sector under a romney administration generates in royalties, in taxes on new jobs and taxes on profits a major step towards the balanced budget. now you've got to control spending. paul ryan would be about as good a vice president as you could get if you wanted to have somebody. i mean, he will know more about the budget than the director of the budget. >> quick comment, and then i've got to go to a break. >> i'm all for exploiting our natural gas. it's incredible bounty. but if we don...

movement. should msnbc worked on a statement for the group without telling the viewers? herman cain confounds almost everyone by surging to the top of the republican polls. is the press finally giving him the scrutiny he deserves. and with the presidential debates dominating, we talk to the man that moderated more faceoffs than anyone else an ad mitts to a few mistakes along the way. a conversation with jim lehrer. >> you don't have any help, don't have time to make the decisions. you have to do them right then with the whole world watching. >> i am howard kurtz. this is reliable s...

You're seeing some negotiating, i would call it, somewhat of an olive branch if you read the body language directly. from speaker pelosi. and so the question is, what can get through the senate. obviously this issue of oil drilling is going to complicate things, because there are a lot of democratic lawmakers who were not happy about it in the first place who are going to say, hey, don't make it a part of a deal now. >> all right. chalk todd thank you very much. enjoy the fish house. enjoy pensacola. >> i will. >> we'll talk to you soon. >> see you tomorrow. >> and if you mention "morning joe"...

Good morning. it's april 30th, 2010. i'm savannah guthrie. >> i'm chalk todd. >> to the run down. we're going to start on top of that massive oil spill in the gulf of mexico which is now threatening the shores of the united states. the navy, coast guard and national guard are trying to contain the leak spilling 5,000 barrels a day. mark pot ser in port sulpher, louisiana this morning. what everybody's trying to find out is when are we going to see, are we going to see oil start coming ashore? >> that may have already happened. there's a little bit of a controversy over that or a dispute right ...

Because that's where arlen expect ser. he used to be back and to the right. now he's back and to the left. >> there's a photo. he was a top staffer on the warren commission back in 1964. so it was professional duty. one other note here, chuck. we need to honor our own trivia king. it was a battle of the wonks last night as washington's most knowledgeable and some say nerdy journalists and politicians competed in hotline's political pursuit quiz bowl.chuck led the team. he was captain of the broadcast news team. let me quote the national journal. todd carried the team for much of the night with...