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Whether this primary process made him a stronger nominee or a weaker nominee. clearly made him a weaker nominee. and when you look inside those numbers, if they're static, if they don't move, if you can't rebound from them, it means you'll have a very tough time winning the general election against the president. the reality, though, and there is a sliver of good news in all of this for governor romney, is that his ballot strength is outperforming all these character attributes. and if you look at the real clear politics average of all the polls put together, he's trailing the president when t...

Clearly made him a weaker nominee. and when you look inside those numbers, if they're static, if they don't move, if you can't rebound from them, it means you'll have a very tough time winning the general election against the president. the reality, though, and there is a sliver of good news in all of this for governor romney, is that his ballot strength is outperforming all these character attributes. and if you look at the real clear politics average of all the polls put together, he's trailing the president when they're all averaged together by about three points. i think the floor for both...

Were somebody like bloomberg or donald trump with some credibility, who could run against the system and politicia politicians. >> you mean go around the republican. >> it's like for a ross perot. >> let me ask you about that. do you buy the fact they can't go to the right or left? they have to go around obama? they have to grab pieces from around the territories and not one chunk? >> if it were to happen, which it's going to the going to happen, the way you would win is not through -- >> this is a lot like '92. >> it would be because you had the character attributes. the history of third-part...

You can see it, we tested not just his job rating on foreign policy, which is at 57%, which in our polarized environment, that's a pretty good number. pretty good number to have. but clearly you can see the economy is down. when we did our character attributes, the ones you could -- that you would sit there and say, these are probably foreign policy attributes, yes, the public viewed them and those numbers went up when it came to being firm and decisive, good commander in chief. you see the ones that have to do more with domestic issues, those numbers didn't move at all, whether it is agreeing...

With the high gas prices which would be around $4 a gallon i many ways, but president obama did get a burn on some character attributes like his ability to handle a crisis and his ability in leadership. only 20% say we should remove all troops from the conflict. 72% agree with the president's position that we should keep troops in place because threats from the taliban and al qaeda still remain. and finally, 72% do not believe the government in pakistan, saying the government must have somehow known that bin laden was in their country. >> jonathan, these numbers underline exact ly what mike ba...