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You pitched past six and seven innings which isn't done very often. you're not in the hall of fame. is that because of your views? you think it's political. >> part of it is. it's not a gas. people have not voted for me because of the things i've said or did. then come out and said that to me. >> isn't that outrageous. aren't they supposed be voting on your career as a baseball player and an athlete, not your political views. >> the two words that come up are character flaws. there's a couple issues. first of all, i've now seen recently have been put in the bonds category. the character issues...

Most part voted with the president's policies. but he is going to call him out on these character issues. i think what you are getting here and now i think the question that hangs over him is are these mitt romney holding out an option here in a potential 2020 challenge to donald trump if he wants to have a downward spiral the way he did in december. one of the things in the op-ed is he cites nikki haley as a positive thing the president did in his first term. nikki haley has already enforced donald trump's 2020 re-election effort. will mitt romney do the same? >> i first heard that about mitt...

The beginning. >> honest about what though, steve, this is my problem with this. donald trump has been crystal clear from the start. i know he has a difference of opinion. i respect that i know a lot of smart people do as well. he has been crystal clear about his policy about what he felt about our interventions overseas. he had a disagreement with a very well respected man in jim mattis. mattis respectfully resigns and trump let's him go. what's the character problem here in the character problem is this phony fraud hoaxer, mitt romney pretending to be a conservative who, again, accepted prou...

Much of promises made, promises kept. there is a lot of voters out there who will compartmentalize and say i don't like this guy, i don't like how he expresses himself but i like the stuff that's going on in the country and i think we have to hold out room for those people to show up. >> for sure. that's the part that we just don't know. this is the wild card. as we've seen in 2016, wild cards come to play sometimes and so in all the voter panels that i've done people are torn between exactly what david is saying, is my life better and can i live with the character issues that have made me unc...

Appreciate just because my marriage had failed and just because i didn't thrive in a law firm, didn't mean i couldn't thrive and when i began listening to that quiet voice inside of me and i started following what my passion was and it led me to public service and it led me to being a single mom and focusing on how to do that the very best i could, it led me on a journey to reflect about the lessons i've learned over the course of my life and how, in the end, it all makes sense but in the beginning, it was chaos. >> you have that quality about you that is just so beautiful and there's, i think...