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About it? deans no. talk about the nitpickiness. remember when he was speaker and running impeachment proceedings against bill clinton? the distinction he used at that time to explain it is bill clinton lied under oath, as he said. he was having an affair with a younger political staffer and lied. that was gingrich's point. lied under oath. while he was having affair with young political staffer that he admitted to and asked forgiveness for. >> eric: i don't care what he admitted to. dana, you're right -- >> dana: i want to understand, eric. how can you as a conservative question the character...

About it? deans no. talk about the nitpickiness. remember when he was speaker and running impeachment proceedings against bill clinton? the distinction he used at that time to explain it is bill clinton lied under oath, as he said. he was having an affair with a younger political staffer and lied. that was gingrich's point. lied under oath. while he was having affair with young political staffer that he admitted to and asked forgiveness for. >> eric: i don't care what he admitted to. dana, you're right -- >> dana: i want to understand, eric. how can you as a conservative question the character...