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Character problem, something more than just the position he took on health care. >> well, i don't have a personal problem with him. i actually think he's a pretty nice guy. he is a successful businessman. but we are loo looking for -- >> is he a man of belief? does he have conservative basic gut instincts? >> well, i think that's the concern that tea partiers have. they are not sure he believes what he says. and what we're trying to do in this process is see which candidates can actually do more than talk the talk. do they believe it, do they seem to be speaking from their hearts on the issues...

You hear things like mccain refused to put him on the ticket. it seems like there's a character problem, something more than just a position he took on health care. >> i don't have a personal problem with him. he's a successful businessman, but we are looking for authentici authenticity. >> is he a man of belief? does he have conservative basic gut instincts? >> i think that's the concern that tea partiers have. they're not sure he believes what he says. what we're trying to do in this process is see when candidates can actually do more than talk the talk. do they believe it? do they seem to b...

Massachusetts care and everything else. >> i think it will, but let me say a word about gingrich. it isn't only the money. it's a character problem. this is a guy who's a very smart guy. he has a lot of ideas. some are smart, some are nuts. but he doesn't have the discipline that you want in a president. starting out-campaign with a savage attack on a plan that your party is now hitched to, one way or the other, shows that you are not somebody who can measure yourself and act in a presidential way. i think it's a lot of character as well as money. >> bill: you know, you are wielding a lot of a...

Massachusetts care and everything else. >> i think it will, but let me say a word about gingrich. it isn't only the money. it's a character problem. this is a guy who's a very smart guy. he has a lot of ideas. some are smart, some are nuts. but he doesn't have the discipline that you want in a president. starting out-campaign with a savage attack on a plan that your party is now hitched to, one way or the other, shows that you are not somebody who can measure yourself and act in a presidential way. i think it's a lot of character as well as money. >> bill: you know, you are wielding a lot of a...

Massachusetts care and everything else. >> i think it will, but let me say a word about gingrich. it isn't only the money. it's a character problem. this is a guy who's a very smart guy. he has a lot of ideas. some are smart, some are nuts. but he doesn't have the discipline that you want in a president. starting out-campaign with a savage attack on a plan that your party is now hitched to, one way or the other, shows that you are not somebody who can measure yourself and act in a presidential way. i think it's a lot of character as well as money. >> bill: you know, you are wielding a lot of a...