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Which was a similar situation from the standpoint that myers was in no way qualified for the job and soon enough bush had to withdraw that nomination because of criticism from republicans and democrats. we're not there yet with jackson, but if you look at how rocky this process has suddenly become, it wouldn't surprise me if he were to wind up in a similar position. >> j. mart, let me ask you something, before we get to pruitt, he's not so much about the vetting, theynow who he was, is what he's done once he got in there, with jackson, are we seeing something that demonstrates that what senato...

Administration. so there's some of that. and then there's this other thing that i don't think squares that accurately with my reporting, which is this idea of calling bannon an outsider. even on this network, you hear the insider in reince priebus and the outsider in bannon. he's not an outsider. you just heard glenn beck say he's a nightmare. >> the cool-headed glenn beck is now weighing in. >> now acting as character reference. >> glen beck is saying this guy is something totally outside the sphere of normal. this reporting that, wow, they're really killing each other in there, not true. thi...

>> i got to know robert very well as a parent. he asked me to write him a character reference to take to court. it was about lilly's best interest. so siding with robert was the right thing to do. >> the mother's own mother was prepared to testify for robert. and the mother's own sister was prepared to testify. now that is a total oddity. usually blood is thicker than water. >> it was going the be her way or no way. the baby was not going to go to school. she was not going to socialize. she was not going to get vaccinations and not going to learn anything but about the confederacy. and somethi...

Character reference to take to court. it was about lilly's best interest. so siding with robert was the right thing to do. >> the mother's own mother was prepared to testify for robert. and the mother's own sister was prepared to testify. now that is a total oddity. usually blood is thicker than water. >> she was not going to get vaccinations and not going to learn anything but about the confederacy. and something had to be done about that. >> when i was walking into court, i was sure i was going to get full custody. >> we felt we had a strong case going to trial, because we had the evidence.

Virginia flaggers' poster child. they loved to take pictures of her with confederate hats and shirts and bibs. i don't see her playing with toys in any picture. i see ammunition. he's allowing my daughter to play with live ammunition. i spoke to megan about it, and it was, oh, well, you know, take me to court. [ gunshot ] >> robert baumann came in to me, very concerned about his daughter lilly. i told him he needs to establish formal paternity and also request custody. >> i got to know robert very well as a parent. he asked me to write him a character reference to take to court. it was about l...