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Ryan had messages that said no it is not big government growth that will be the answer. it is going to be our private sector to grow and thrive and prosper. that's the solution. >> greta: do you think, totally political strategy if i were running the democratic party and the republican party, the first thing i would worry about is divide and conquer now michelle bachmann is devoiding the republican party seems great for the democratic side. >> i've been accused of dividing within that establishment of the republican party too for some years now. i don't see it as division. this is one thing i ...

>> cornell, it was katrina and the competence question that undermined president bush during the end of his term. does this president face a similar credibility competence test? >> i think every president does. look when you get inside the polling. tell you a nasty secret, there are character traits more important than others. republicans have known this for years. character trait, strength and toughness. they want to see the president is tough, strong, decisive, it carried george bush, they saw him as a tough, decisive leader when that was undermind strength was undermined by katrina, you saw...

Kind of a bill clinton without the charm. i mean, very ambitious. he's spart, incredibly ambitious, but he doesn't have the back-slapping mode of bill clinton, but he's ambitious and he's trying to take advantage of -- and seize an opening and is coming at her real hard. >> i'll tell you, if you're carrying bill clinton's character traits, you better have the charm. that sort of -- the cherry on top that sells it all. let's talk about -- it's so fascinating. you've talked about how volatile the electorate is. when i'm out talking and people ask if the electorate is volatile or not, i have go b...

This argument that everything dems touch adds to the deficit, so why did he back down? >> reporter: in the end he packed down because democrats gave him one vote last night and promised a couple in the coming weeks to pay for these benefits. the vote last night did not pass and he knew that that was the case. in fact that is why although he was offered this deal several times before, he even admitted it, he said no because he knew that the senate would not vote to pay for this. many democrats think that it's not necessary because it's emergency spending. tony, i know what you are getting at is...

Not get up or didn't get up at all. how many times they might have gotten up under a bush speech and none of that was detail. there's a lot-- i'd say commentary throughout the night about that and it is so boring, so rote, the same thing over and over again and by ten o'clock, now, you can barely keep your eyes open. >> good manners never hurt. >> don't attack the supreme court. >> good manners. >> if we're talking about, if elliss insists on talking character traits, another one oppose today is hipocracy. for obama to get up there and denounce banks and so on and have the hill newspaper revea...