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. i think we've made it halfway where we ought to. that is cut it from eight to four jets. now we need to go from four to zero. this is another example of fiscal irresponsibility run amok in congress right now. >> that was then congressman tom price. he was slamming government spending for private planes this 2009. very noble. flash forward to the health and human services secretary, that private jet travel broke precedent with five charter flights in three days. the report details flights for official government business that charter operators estimate would cost at least $60,000. which bri...

Dollars but the charter operators get to pocket the money and 80% of those schools -- >> martha: they are not making money off of those kids. >> what i am saying, and michigan, i'd want you to just look at what happened in michigan. the superintendent, the former superintendent of schools in michigan, who is a charter supporter, said that the charter operators were pocketing the money while kids suffered. >> martha: if that is true, -- >> what i'm saying, that is her record, that is why we are against her. >> martha: randi, thank you very much. to randi weingarten joining us tonight. let's bri...

Precisely that. and one area where president obama and secretary of education are focused, and it's working incredible well is in education. the race to the top if incent e incentivizes exactly the right thing. >> we have to find a way to say yes. what is in the way of progress like that? >> lots of defenders of the status quo. when you create charter schools and create competition that brings real pressure on the system. and a lot of people worried about jobs and worried about other issues and that's why i say, we called our reform xhirn first. a provocative way to look at the issue. 35,000 k...

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