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Rivals will live stream video on snapchat, a practice known as cyber banking. the post reports the most popular sites for gang members include what's apps, cover me, kick messenger and messages disappear soon after they are sent making it harder for cops to track but they avoid facebook which they call fed book because authorities have been monitoring facebook for years looking for evidence of illegal activity and finding, locking up numerous gang leaders who post things they probably wish they didn't. it is getting tougher since they can't monitor messages sent in the chat apps so are relying...

Bring in howard schmidt, cyber security, and laurie segall is here as well. laurie, new reporting isis is using some of these chat apps that are encrypted. things like telegram and maybe educate us on what that is, to communicate, and maybe perhaps even plot. we don't know they were direc y linked to paris but there was conversation what they were using. >> just hearing about telegram. an app that terror analysts tell me isis is broadcasting propaganda on and direct messages offering into encryption, making it very easy to do, and the last week telegram actually said they're taking down isis p...

Help us understand that. why is that less secure or more secure i suppose, than a regular text message? >> well it's the default i-message for instance is the default text app on the iphone and on the ipad. >> right. >> the way apple and google they all have their chat apps. facebook has whatsapp. it will be encrypted. there's no third key that can unlock that. when the government shows up with a warrant and asks for a copy the only thing google or apple can give them is a block full of data. >> unless they can crack that -- >> they're not going to get anything. what's going to happen and what...