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It's very different when all this classified material appears on the social chat site kiss cord and makes it way -- discord. then who's responsible? >> right. i mean, but let's remember that a lot of the major leaks over the past decade were more like this than the traditional leaks of, say, daniel ellsberg with the pentagon papers going to the times and the post. when wick by leaks, for example, gets a lot of information, that's people saying we don't trust these mainstream outlets because they'll suppress the story or manipulate it. ed edward snowden came to me because i was independent, not...

>> jesse: what have you guys learned about human nature and it -- just because you guys have been kind of face-to-face with a lot of these guys. >> it's sick. these guys have no remorse, no feelings. sometimes we are talking to these guys for weeks, it could be a day. they're willing to meet up and it's disturbing. >> jesse: how prevalent is it? if you go onto a chat site -- i mean, did they just start flooding you with pickup lines? how does that work? >> yeah, absolutely. we never expected it to be as prevalent in the area as it was when we first started, but if we did this full-time we coul...

Later, a 911 call from the home, not from the mother-to-be, but from the now defendant, figueroa. >> the caller gave birth ten minutes ago, 46 years of age, the baby isn't breathing. >> reporter: the next day, they reported marlin missing. may 7th, the case took a turn after a friend of the victim told detectives about lopez's facebook chat site. authorities found exchanges with figueroa. this led officials to her home where they spoke to her daughter. >> they talked to desiree for a while. they are able to solicit where is your mom at. they continue to talk to her. my mom just delivered a bab...

Minutes ago, 46 years of age, the baby isn't breathe be. >> reporter: the next day, ochoa-lopez's husband reported marla missing but it wasn't until may 7th when the case took a turn after a friend of the victim told detectives about ochoa-lopez's chat site. this led officials to figueroa's home where they spoke to her daughter. >> they talked to desiree for a while and they were able to kind of solicit from desiree, well, where's your mom at? they continued to talk to her and talk to her and she said, well, my mom did also just deliver a baby. >> reporter: police interviewed figueroa at the h...

Minutes ago, 46 years of age, the baby isn't breathing. >> reporter: the next day, her husband reported marlin missing. it wasn't until may 7th when the case took a turn after a friend of the victim told detectives about the facebook chat site. this led officials to figueroa's home where they spoke to her daughter. >> they talked to desiree for a while. they were able to solicit from desiree, where is your mom? they continued to talk to her and talk to her. desiree says my mom just delivered a baby. >> reporter: police interviewed figueroa at the hospital where she claimed the baby was hers an...