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Does everybody agree this will fundamental transform america and not go back to the country we've known if it passes? >> economic game changer. >> yes. >> glenn: if this is that important shouldn't we do this right? >> the history of human freedom paying careful attention to procedure. they don't care about procedure, because they don't care about freedom, they only care about power, getting done that which will give them and successors more power over us. >> glenn: put up the chart from phil kerpin. put it up on the 103. judge, come with me. this is from a friend of the show. he put this. how...

You are to protect them. >> 100% correct but they don't believe that. >> is it not the ninth, the eighth or the ninth amendment? ninth amendment that says there are other right rightsrig. >> right. the ninth amendment says rights in the bill of rights is not to mean other rights don't exist. there are other rights that exist. we couldn't possibly lay them out. the government would like to forget about them. >> glenn: right. the idea is these are the things that the government is restricted to do. i've got a lot more rights than what that piece of paper says. >> of course you do. >> glenn: righ...

On the horizon and we have done significant damage to america in the last few months. they're saying now, it's coming. downgrade is coming. moody's is a government agency, is it not? >> quasi. >> it's also paid for by people who are graded and evaluated. the credit ability problem for me is value added. >> glenn: why are they saying this? >> at some point in time moody's has to say do we have value at all? we have to look at a business, the united states government, for 20 years that has not broken even for 16 of the years. tell me any company lose money for 16 years and run almost 100% of the...

Creator this is the result of your government. paine with the change. >> glenn: he went to jail for it. >> he did. got in trouble, the french revolution and tried to get washington to get out. trouble with it. change with paine. part came from franklin. franklin jumped paine in 1790 and said thomas, you're saying secular does this stuff. you claim to be religious and have the integrity and courage and loyalty and say you have it without religion. but you were raised in religious schools and where you got your thinking. >> this is the most outrageous quote. if any politician said it today it wo...

>> glenn: this is really interesting. a document from thomas jefferson. here it is. on the 24th day in the year of our lord christ. 1807. signed by thomas jefferson. significant to this? >> article seven, it said in the year of our lord they had done the constitution. jefferson added in the year of our lord christ. >> glenn: everyone tells you he didn't believe in -- >> that's right. >> glenn: okay. gentlem gentlemen, i think america is at a crossroads. at a place financially it won't last. if they pass this the way they do underhandedly, are we close to constitutional crisis? this feels reall...