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Wanted for a long time. not that specific incident of what he did, but he's laying down a marker saying this is the way i'm going to work things. people come to my side and starting a negotiation position. it's a chess move. i don't understand why people don't see that. >> that is one view of it. jeannie, i want to move forward on the secretary of state piece. take a look at the people still in the running. we heard bob corker, rudy jewel annie, david petraeus, mitt romney. these are the big names. then there was some leaking and discussion of other folks, former exxon ceo. what do you think t...

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Which is the ryan plan. but president went that distance. and i think boehner went back it his caucus. he couldn't get the support. and so the speaker has now become a mouth piece for the tea party. and you're right and dana's right, i think in the end there has to be a deal, maybe there won't be, there has to be a deal, but it will come at the very last second. >> president may have said, let me throw it all on the table. let me rising everything. let me, as he said, show tough leadership. and they still wouldn't do it and maybe it was a chess move to show no matter what, this is about trying...

I ask you al, what happens to a wild who can't get health insurance? what happened to a family whose mother is in a nursing home and doesn't get medicaid help for that? what happens to though people? >> and seniors with social security. see, i think that the real problem that i think is that we have not put the human face on it and senator, i question as i looked at this because i was as concerned as you are when i'm hearing social security and medicare, medicaid put on the table was was the president talking about effecting benefits or about structural? we don't know because boehner and them ...