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Years for multiple counts of burglary and fraud, had a different hobby. >> i'm making a birdhouse right now. i also do chess sets. when i was in florida i worked in the hobby craft shop and we had saws and band saws and everything that we could cut regular wood with. here we don't. here we have popsicle sticks, and i buy them a thousand at a time. then i cut the ends off. good old elmer's glue and this is my little saw which happens to be the bottom of a pringle's can. it's not sharp. it won't cut a person, but it will cut these sticks. it is the only tool i use to cut these. it takes eight to...

>> what are you doing? >> sitting occupying time, living on air and prayer. that's all. that's all i'm doing. you know? >> steve robbins was serving 90 years for murder, but he had a sensitive eye when it came to color. >> this is really blue. a very beautiful color. you see, i have to use it sparingly. you know what i'm talking about? the sky, all right. creativity, i got you, no problem. this is oil point. it's not acrylics. you know, you'd have to let this dry. that's how i do it. i don't try to put too much of a buildup on the paint because i want to control it. >> darryl maman, serving 40...

That's all i'm doing. >> steve robbins was serving 90 years for murder. he had a sensitive eye when it came to color. >> this is really blue. a very beautiful color. you see, i have to use it sparingly. you know what i'm talking about? the sky, creativity, i got you, no problem. this is oil point. this is not acrylics. you have to let this dry. at least that is how i do it. i don't try to put too much buildup on the paint because i want to control it. >> darryl maman, serving 40 years for multiple counts of burglary and fraud, had a different hobby. >> i'm making a birdhouse right now. i also ...

Sky. creativity. i got you. no problem. this is oil paint. it's not acrylics. you got to let this dry to bill up. at least that's what i do. i don't try to put too much of a build up on the paint because i want to control it. >> darrel nanen serving 40 years for multiple counts of burglary and fraud had a different hobby. >> i'm making a bird house right now. i also do chess sets. when i was in florida i worked in the hobby craft shop, and we had saws and band saws and everything that we could just cut regular wood with. here we don't. here we've got pop single sticks. -- popsicle sticks. and ...