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Let's not argue about this endless argument about gun control. >> would you concede as good of an idea as you think this is, it may not work because there have been cases where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre, this kind of carnage. you would concede that point, wouldn't you? >> i'm saying that if i'm a mom or a dad -- >> you're saying we ought to try. >> if i'm a mom or dad, i'd feel a whole lot safer with these great men and women on police forces -- >> you have to concede it may not work. >> nothing's perfect, david but, gosh, it's going to be better -- >> who pays? a t...