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That's probably the biggest sign. whether they came in un'companied through a child trafficker or human trafficker. those are actually concerning, because you don't want to endanger the child by any means. >> shouldn't the administration have worried about that before they implemented the policy of zero-tolerance? to be able to have a clear way of identifying which children go with which parents instead of after the fact after the u.n. iskt process? >> but ryan, that presupposes that the burden of proof is on the united states, that it's our problem to prove which child belongs with which adul...

I think we are making the wrong comparison here, dana. the alternative is the possibility being with a child trafficker. this may not be -- this is a terrible alternative but this is a world worse alternative. >> dana: some alternatives will be to plan ahead. there is money to be allocated and try to house these families together. or your idea. everyone goes back together on a boss, you don't want to be separated, fine. you do it again, it's a felony and you'll be separated. we don't want to do that. the people being tasked with carrying out this policy, they don't want to have to do it. but t...

-based baptist -- people were relative stranges to him but for the two that he did know. to what about this allegation that jorge fujlio is a child trafficker, the lawyer? >> well, i will answer that. obviously who ar jorge is not m allen's lawyer and never has been, i am. and hopefully the investigation can get to the bottom of him. i think it is unfortunate, though, i don't think some investigation of him should interfere with jim allen who has been exonerated by the evidence by the haitian judge to be set free. he has been exo exonerated and cleared and needs to be released right away. >> g...

-based baptist -- people were relative stranges to him but for the two that he did know. to what about this allegation that jorge fujlio is a child trafficker, the lawyer? >> well, i will answer that. obviously who ar jorge is not m allen's lawyer and never has been, i am. and hopefully the investigation can get to the bottom of him. i think it is unfortunate, though, i don't think some investigation of him should interfere with jim allen who has been exonerated by the evidence by the haitian judge to be set free. he has been exo exonerated and cleared and needs to be released right away. >> g...

-based baptist -- people were relative stranges to him but for the two that he did know. to what about this allegation that jorge fujlio is a child trafficker, the lawyer? >> well, i will answer that. obviously who ar jorge is not m allen's lawyer and never has been, i am. and hopefully the investigation can get to the bottom of him. i think it is unfortunate, though, i don't think some investigation of him should interfere with jim allen who has been exonerated by the evidence by the haitian judge to be set free. he has been exo exonerated and cleared and needs to be released right away. >> g...