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Eventually, hong kong is a very important hub and it has a lot of, well, signals about china and countries still pay attention to it. and i think as long as we can use any of these examples to remind anyone in the world that there is a growing authoritarianism from china and we have to step up to stop them, i think that's a good course. president xi uses nationalism. nationalism is a very important motivating factor in china right now. the chinese portray you as a puppet in the pocket of the united states and other hostile forces who want to see china fail. you play into that, don't you? you s...

The chinese portray you as a puppet in the pocket of the united states and other hostile forces who want to see china fail. you play into that, don't you? you spend an awful lot of time in the united states. you go see people like mike pompeo when you're there. are you in the pocket of interests in the united states? i haven't played into that. i think that it's my legitimate right to express any signals from hong kong to anyone who wants to listen to it. most importantly, i've repeatedly urged the hong kong government to give any evidence they have. do you get money, funding from the united s...