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Rate than millions of hard-working middle class households. warren points out that it's not fair and it doesn't make sense. >> but in a debate between the 99% and the 1%, do the real issues and the voters get left behind? joining me right now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and chip salzman. good afternoon to both of you. chip, i'd like you to take a listen first to a speech that president george w. bush made earlier this week. >> i wish they weren't called the bush tax cuts. probably less likely to be raised if they're somebody else's tax cuts. if you raise tax on the so-called ric...

Phase-in over a number of years and get the benefit of reducing the deficit dramatically. it's the way to do it. >> chip, $4.6 trillion sounds pretty good. >> well, i think the numbers here are this simple. raising taxes is never a good idea. we are not in a country -- we're not living in a country that we're undertaxed. we're overspent. i think the greater problem is the government is spending too much money. we took in about $2 trillion this year. this year alone. we're spending $3.7 trillion. that's a $1.7 trillion deficit this year, not over ten years. we have an immediate need to cut the ...

Scandal. i'm not going to run as a conservative. i am a conservative. [ applause ] >> it is the age-old question for republicans, how do they hold on to their base without alienating crucial independent voters in november? i'm choined by chip salzman and doug thornell. good morning to both of you. >> how are you doing? >> chip, i know this question gets asked. but it takes on new resonance because we've talked so much about social issues. are you worried the candidates are turning off the middle by not staying more focused on the economy and jobs? >> well, first of all, i thought it was funny ...

Watch for more "hiring our heros" segment throughout the day. i'm going to see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. among my guests, chip salzman and bo biden, son of the vice president. now the with alex wagner" comes your way next. what have you got coming up for everybody? >> so much, thomas. we are minutes weight from getting our first peek at what went on in the supreme court this morning. a live report from inside, and a debate how health care will affect the election in november. speaking of which, just who will be running? the general election is still unclear. is rick tantoru...

The truth to the people of this country about it. with e need a president and a nominee we can trust. >> let's bring in our super tuesday power panel. i love saying that. alicia menendez, chip salzman and richard wolf. i want to start with the big battleground state of ohio. it's up for grabs. everybody really wants this. it's only going to go to one person. the latest poll has santorum and romney deadlocked in the polls leading up to today's vote. if romney squeaks this to victory, is it over? >> well, no, it's not. it's going to drag on. but pretty much we know where it's headed. that's to s...